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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.07.13 12:36:00 -
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Internet Lawyer Steve wrote: Typical response from an alliance that has always been someone elses pet.
Funny you say that about TEST's war. TEST invited the goons to join our war, not vice versa.
Also, RE: the war in Delve, basically, the CFC yet again annihilated an enemy who was convinced we were bad at this game. It really is nice to have a reputation of being terrible, everyone underestimates you so consistently, and its so crushing to their morale to lose every major engagement against "terrible players". TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1949
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Posted - 2012.07.13 12:37:00 -
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Kuehnelt wrote:Degren wrote:Let me repeat that.
-A-'s strategy was to stay docked and let us get bored.
Makalu's strategy was to stay docked and let us get bored. *snort* You should listen to your enemies instead of your leaders.
we recorded those, you know. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1949
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Posted - 2012.07.13 12:39:00 -
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Gogela wrote:You know what really struck me on that influence map? Against All Authorities. Man do they have staying power.... hat's off to you gents o7
The pain train hasn't reached their space yet. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1949
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Posted - 2012.07.13 12:56:00 -
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Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:Haquer wrote:Cebraio wrote:TheBreadMuncher wrote:Karadion Kohlar wrote:We're on the highway to hell. Hiiiighwaaaay toooo theeee danger zoooneeee Top Gun == 80s gay movie You take that back. What's wrong, Archer? We all know you aren't like that. Well, ok, there was that one time with that Cuban dissident that Castro tried to have killed...
DANGER ZONE! TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1951
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Posted - 2012.07.13 19:18:00 -
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Kuehnelt wrote: 1. TEST failed, then noticed that someone said meeeeeaaan things about TEST, then fell to the floor and wailed like a toddler. New strategic goal: take these three regions. For this reason: **** YOUUUUUUU.
PL deployed to pewpew. TEST turned it into a war.
Kuehnelt wrote: 2. CFC decided that the best way to take these regions for crybaby TEST was to do it as easily as possible: so, as much as possible, without fighting anything. So, fleet doctrine: maintain 3-1/4-1 odds, and punish the enemy for any decision to engage. There's a blob 3x their number at the undock? And they're engaging?! Light that cyno for dreads.. Com spy says they're about to undock? Into this?! We need more people nao. Bridge more in. We need a huge local spike.
You complain about 3-1 / 4-1, but completely neglect that it was inverted before TEST called in our friends, and completely fail to realize what it symbolizes: we wanted that space more. More of our pilots wanted to go blow up and have fun. You can cry all you want about it, but our collective will was far, far stronger, hence far higher participation numbers (and percentages). "Oh, but your alliances are so big!" you say. Can you guess why people seem to want to join us? Because we have a blast in space, ask little to nothing of our members, and tend to win wars.
Kuehnelt wrote:3. Of course, to actively not-fight is boring as ****. And being a meatshield is not humiliating like "being +1 in local so that they won't fight us" is. People may propose alternative plans that are more likely to yield fights, like half of this blob ******* off. People may come onto the forums and whine (seriously, not for propaganda purposes) that they're not being engaged. People who are perhaps too brainwashed may popularize recordings of SoCo comms in which please-don't-engage-us manoeuveurs are always what the CFC is doing, whilst the alleged "we-just-stay-docked" faction are always appalled by this.
So we're just supposed to tell two thirds of the people who eagerly want to blow your **** up and goof off in comms to go home? I don't think you have a very practical understanding of alliance organization or "fun". Also, avoiding combat? ****, the CFC always has flown most fleets with no intent to return home in ships. That never changed. You are so bitter you're losing touch with reality.
Kuehnelt wrote: 4. Thus, the heavy propaganda (mainly for your own members' consumption, but also to poison what rubes of the enemy coalition it finds), the quick digression to the next war which surely won't suck like this one, and... well, I'm still waiting for the next bit. Given that TEST space may as well display as 'Unclaimed' by how controlled it is, what do you plan to say when the blob really does recede and the space really is lost?
You're in for a surprise when you realize TEST, PL and several allies will be taking up permanent residence in the newly conquered regions.
Kuehnelt wrote:Anyway, for anyone for whom the spy comms are tldl, listen only to http://soundcloud.com/dariush_records/ra-meeting-07-07 . Not because it supports what I say above, but because it's totally awesome. Little gem in there: real allies, who are separate sovereigns and not one of them the pet of the other, are allies for a given end and will reset standings after that end.
Some advice: What you just described are allies of convenience. People who will fight alongside you only when it benefits them, and then stab you in the back. That isn't about having fun, its about manipulation and mutual benefit. Real allies are friends - they've got your back, you've got theirs, no matter the situation. There are no "pets" among friends. Allies find fights by organizing thunderdomes between each other or going out hunting for enemies, and ensuring enemies continue to exist for each other.Your very clear misunderstanding of fundamental concepts like this, of the CFC mentality, and your obvious bitterness leads me to believe some very sad things about you. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1952
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Posted - 2012.07.13 19:30:00 -
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Alphea Abbra wrote: I'm not sure whether to feel relieved that you're not threatening to set us blue (As happened in 319 local over something trollish I said there), or disgusted that you refer to my post in order to make a point against one of my blues ... Either way, I am pondering on how long into Fountain I could get in a stealthbomber before you** shoot me, and whether that effort is worth it in terms of harassment.
Fountain is always completely crawling with SBs, all the people who live there are more than used to them. It wouldn't really be harassment, it would be Tuesday. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1955
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Posted - 2012.07.13 19:46:00 -
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Looks like my assumptions are true.
I pity you. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1956
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Posted - 2012.07.14 00:22:00 -
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Caroline Cosmos wrote:I think a nice war between TEST and Goonswarm would really spice these forums up.
Relevant. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1957
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Posted - 2012.07.14 00:39:00 -
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Caroline Cosmos wrote:You have to admit, it would be pretty awesome. When I first saw you guys (TEST) in 2010 buzzing around Orvole/Osmoden/PF. I even thought at that time... wouldn't it be cool if a new Goonswarm started up and challenged the old Goonswarm?
But I think the Goons made a very prudent early decision to "friend up" with you guys as to avoid such a catastrophe.
Now, of course I don't follow politics enough to know all the ins and outs of how your friendships formed, but that was just kinda what I gathered at the time.
All in all, I always thought Dreddit was very similar to the Goons in structure, but quite different on an individual pilot level. The Dreddit guys I have encountered were always pretty civil and relatively mature.
Blah, blah, blah.
It wasn't a strategic decision to "friend up" - we're more alike in terms of alliance culture and identity than any other alliances in EVE. We're natural friends, but its a lot like sibling friendship - lots of friendly mocking, competition, etc, but at the end of the day we will always have each other's backs no matter what. Also, you'd be *very surprised* how mature goons can be and how immature TEST can be. Our forums are polar opposites.
I think fleet warfare between our two alliances will certainly happen someday, and I guarantee we'll have more thunderdomes and goodfites between us. But as for actual warfare, trying to conquer each other's space and crush each other? I don't see that happening ever, to be honest. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1974
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Posted - 2012.07.15 04:06:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote: I started watching the online population, looking for 50k spikes and left disapointed
Please tell me you aren't dumb enough to think everyone would log in at the same time. EVE is about as international as an MMO gets. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1981
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Posted - 2012.07.15 11:30:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Degren wrote: PS: GG, Makalu. You are one of the biggest reasons SOCO collapsed so quickly.
I may have little PvP experience, but i heard that 5:1 odds were the reason they collapsed so quickly lol.
Pretty sure 5:1 never happened.
Worst I saw was 3:1, and it was usually 1.5:1 to 2:1. Makalu is genuinely a bad FC, he calls frigates that are webbing him as primary.
Seriously, just look at any of the KB battle reports for the Loki graveyards. Lokis getting dismantled while they shoot at free rifters. Makalu was more concerned with surviving the fight and making his KB look good than he was with actually effectively leading. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1984
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Posted - 2012.07.15 11:39:00 -
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Marconus Orion wrote:You know I keep seeing references to this Loki death wish fight and not any from other battles. Was that the only one that really happened? The only other so called 'battle' reports I see are just something about camping in people who wont fight.
This was the epic war you guys were going on about??...
There were quite a few fights, but the Loki fleets failed so spectacularly that people bring them up most.
It really was hilarious, plus the SoCo comms are in the public domain now, so you get to hear Makalu flailing about like an oxygen deprived rabid dog. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
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